Dinosaurs And The Bible
In the first chapter, scientific evidence was presented that proves this world is not billions of years old. There are those that would like every child to believe that this world is billions of years old -- and it is not. They want children to believe that dinosaurs lived millions of year ago -- and they did not. This lie is a pagan religion being forced down the throats of our children. That pagan religion is evolution. I am often asked, "Why do you always refer to evolution as a religion? Isnít it a scientific fact that the world has evolved?" No, no, no! It is a far cry from a scientific fact.
On the back of my business card, there is a long-standing offer of $10,000 for anyone that can present scientific evidence proving evolution. The evidence must be empirical, testable, and demonstrable. This offer is not because I am looking for a fight. I am like the Quaker that says, "Sir, I would not harm thee for the world, but thou art standing where I am about to shoot." I am just weary of our tax dollars being used to force their pagan religion into the school system. Evolution is a religion: nothing more, nothing less! Evolution is just something people prefer to believe because of their life style. It is important that citizens put a stop to this misuse of our tax dollars. Publicly funded institutions, including parks, museums, and public schools, should not be allowed to use taxpayer dollars to even mention evolution or billions of years ago in relation to the earthís age, especially to teach it as a fact, unless they are going to teach other options.
Dinosaurs were nothing more than giant lizards in the garden of Eden. Dinosaurs lived with Adam and Eve. They were big lizards, and lizards never stop growing. This brings us up to the flood. If they were in the garden of Eden, the first 1,600 years of manís life on earth, what happened to them? Did Noah have dinosaurs on the ark? Certainly! You ask, "Dinosaurs on the ark?" The Bible says that he had seven of every "clean" kind, two of every "common" kind. The ark was pretty big. Let me give you some facts about the size of the ark. The ark measured approximately 450 feet long, about 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high. The deck would have measured 97,700 square feet. This is verifiable in the Bible; look it up. No other ship was as large as this one until the Italian vessel, Eturia, built in 1884. The ark was about half the length of the 1,018 foot Queen Mary. The ark had the capacity of 520 modern railroad stock cars. Americaís leading systematic taxonomists list the number of species to be 3,500 mammals, 8,600 birds, 5,500 reptiles and amphibians, and 25,500 worms, for a total of 43,100 different animals and insects. The overall average size of the animals was about the size of a sheep. They would easily fit into 150 box cars; so you see, they had plenty of room.
You ask, "Dinosaurs on the ark, but dinosaurs are so big?" Noah was pretty smart. Noah was 600 years old, and he was probably smart enough to figure out that you do not have to bring the biggest ones you find. Bring babies. Just be sure to get a pink one and a blue one. I would say that there are a lot of reasons to bring babies: 1.) They were smaller and took up much less space. 2.) They would sleep a lot more. 3.) They would eat a lot less; which means they would have to bring a lot less food. 4.) After the flood was over, they would live longer to produce more offspring. That is why they brought them in the beginning. Furthermore, he only had to bring two of each kind, not two of each specie or variety. This is where people become confused..
There are 250 subspecies of dogs in the world. Noah did not have to bring Great Danes, Chihuahuas, St. Bernards, and Dalmatians. All Noah had to bring was two of the dog kind. From those two generic mutts, dogs have diversified until we have the different varieties in existence today. The definition of kind in the Bible is more like our classification system of family. Two from each family of animals, which greatly reduces the number. I would say that the basic dog kind diversified after the flood into the Wolf, the Coyote, the Hyena, the Chihuahua, the Great Dane, the Doberman, and so on. These are all variations, not evolution! They are still the same "kind" of animal -- a dog kind of animal.
People say, "If that big boat sailed around and landed on Mt. Ararat, why canít we find it?" There is a lot of controversy about that. Maybe it has been found. There are two competing schools among creationists that are looking for the ark. One group says the ark is on Mt. Ararat. There was a good CBS special on about that. There is another group that says Noahís ark is not even on Mt. Ararat, that it is twelve miles away in the valley called, The Valley of Eight. Nobody seems to know why it is called The Valley of Eight. There is also a village there called The Village of Eight, and nobody seems to know why it is called The Village of Eight. There were eight people that got off the ark; that is an interesting thought. Mt. Ararat is located right near the corner of Iran, Turkey, and Russia, just twelve miles from the Russian border. Twelve miles from Mt. Ararat, in another one of the mountains of Ararat, is a strange boat-shaped structure. The Bible says that the ark landed on the mountains of Ararat (plural) so it might be on a different mountain or valley. There is a strange boat-shaped structure pictured in a book by Ron Wyatt. Mr. Wyatt says that the boat-shaped object is Noahís ark. It is 515 feet long, which is 300 Egyptian royal cubits. Assuming that this is the ark, it is obvious that the ark has collapsed in on itself and folded out to the sides, leaving what is now visible as a tear-dropped shape. It would have been there for quite a while, and the ark is no longer navigable! Mr. Wyatt drilled all through the area and found all sorts of petrified animal dung, which is what you might expect after being in the ark for a year.
The Turkish government believes that this is Noahís ark, and to prove it, and to built a visitorsí center near the structure as shown in the figure 2-1. It is easy to walk right up to it; however, after Saddam Insane (I mean Hussein) ran all the Kerds out, warring factions spread all over that area, making it a very politically unstable area to visit. Needless to say, the visitorsí center is not doing very much business. Huge anchor stones (figure 2-2) have been found all around the area. These are 9,000 pound rocks, about 3 or 4 miles away from the sight itself. Some may ask why the anchor stones are not next to the ark. If this is the ark, it is possible that after the ark landed the ropes were cut, and they said, "Hey letís get out of this thing." Then God said, "Not yet, stay there," then another wave moved the ark four or five miles.
After the flood, people began to kill the dinosaurs. The Bible says in Genesis chapter 9 that man was allowed to eat meat after the flood. The dinosaur would be a likely target. They killed them off to be heroes, or just because they were a menu. There would be a lot of hamburger in one dinosaur. Who wants to live next door to a tyrannosaurus rex? For example, how many grizzly bears are in your county? Except for those in a zoo, probably none. How many were there 500 years ago? There was probably a large number. What happened to them? As the population of people increases, the population of ferocious animals decreases. They are either killed off or driven away. As the population of the world grew after the flood, the population of the dinosaurs shrank. For the first 1,000 years or so after the flood, people were killing dinosaurs. Maybe you are a hunter? Do you ever go hunting for Bambi? If you were in your tree stand and a herd of deer came running right under you with only three bucks in the herd and you only had time to get off one shot, which one would you go for? The biggest one, right? There is just something about men. If you are going to shoot one, shoot the biggest one. I wonder how the hunter felt right after the flood, with dinosaurs available? I can see him now, shooting a brachiosaurus, putting him on the back of a jeep, and dragging him down to the taxidermist. He says, "Hey, mount this thing for me! Iím going to hang him on my wall!"
There are literally thousands of legends around the world of people slaying dragons. How did these legends start? Taking in to account that the stories have probably gotten out of proportion through the telling of them, could it be that they were based on historical fact? Beowulf slew a dragon; Prince George; Gilgamesh; and St. John all slew dragons. There are many accounts such as these. The Catholic Bible even tells, in the book of Daniel, about dragons. Could it be that Nebuchadnezzar had a dragon in captivity. Nebuchadnezzarís seal on his ring was the god Marduke on the top of a fire-breathing dragon. That is the Babylonian symbol. Did they have dinosaurs back then? In the Catholic Bible, the book of Daniel has two extra chapters, Daniel 13 and 14. Daniel 14 tells the story of Daniel slaying a dragon that Nebuchadnezzar had in the palace. Did they really have a dinosaur in Babylon in 600 BC? Well, it makes sense from the Biblical account.
The Bible teaches that the flood was 4,400 years ago, which is 2,400 years before the birth of Christ. In Nebuchadnezzarís time, 600 BC, 1,800 years had transpired since the flood. Most of the dinosaurs had been killed; however, a few were still around and if you could catch one you would be a hero. They would put one in a cage for you so you could have a dragon of your very own. There are lots of stories like that. Saddam Hussein is spending millions of dollars reconstructing the original cities of Babylon. When the ancient walls of the city of Babylon were unearthed, they were intact, perfectly preserved. Etched into the walls are carvings of dinosaurs and lions. Dinosaurs? The Babylonian dragon? How is it possible for them to have known what a dinosaur looked like if they had not seen one?
If you believe in evolution, this is impossible. Dinosaurs could not have been living with man! That is impossible because you have already been taught by your high priest (the professor), that dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, and man did not arrive until 3 million years ago -- when Lucy crawled up out of the gorge in Ethiopia. I know what you have been taught, and you do not dare believe anything different or they will excommunicate you from the temple, that is the university. That is what I was taught. The Christian explanation is much simpler. Dinosaurs lived with man all along. The world is only six or seven thousand years old. After the flood, the climate changed which caused the dinosaurs to not grow as big and to not live as long. Another factor, is that man started hunting and killing the dinosaur. Therefore, the dinosaur became smaller and very rare. Up until the time of Nebuchadnezzar, there were still some around, even up until modern times after Christ.
Two hundred years after the birth of Jesus Christ a Roman Mosaic was made showing two long-necked dinosaurs (figure 2-4) fighting or kissing. What they are doing is not important. What they are is important. How could you have dinosaurs on a Roman Mosaic from the second century AD? They were not excavating dinosaur bones and piecing them together. How could they make such detailed images of these critters, unless they had seen them? Again, a creationist perspective makes perfect sense. A few dinosaurs were probably still in existence 1,800 years ago. From the evolutionary perspective, the story of dragons doesnít make very much sense. "They all have to be mythology." Chinese have lots of stories of their emperors using dragons to pull their chariots on special occasions. Chinese dragons? Many Chinese recipes call for dragon saliva, bone, or teeth ground up for special medicines. Could it be that they were really killing off dinosaurs? It makes perfect sense to me. The Vikings even made their ships to have a dragonís head (figure 2-5). Why? A lot of Scandinavian legends tell about the giant dragons that lived in the sea. These dragons would devour their ships; so, they made their ships to look like the dragons. Now, whether that would attract or repel them is another subject to discuss.
In 1572, an Italian scientist, Ulysses Aldravondus, documented the entire account of the killing of a dinosaur. He even had the dead body mounted for a museum. Wait a minute Dr. Hovind! A dinosaur was on display in an Italian museum only 400 years ago? Again, from a creationist perspective, that makes sense. It was apparently a small tanystropheus dinosaur. There are lots of stories about dinosaurs.
I have a friend in the Philadelphia area who died a short time ago. His widow gave me pictures that he had taken in the Grand Canyon (figures 2-6 and 2-7). All over the Grand Canyon there are petroglyphs, rock carvings, scratched into the walls of the Canyon. There among the petroglyphs is a scratched, embossed, image of a dinosaur. A dinosaur? In the Grand Canyon? You mean the Indians hunted dinosaurs? Here is another petroglyph (figure 2-8) from Africa. The native on the left is running from the dinosaur on the right. Smart native! If you believe in evolution, this is wild, too far out, cannot be true. From a Bible perspective it is very possible.
There are literally thousands of stories of people sighting sea monsters during the days of sailing ships. Columbus had a hard time getting a crew because they were afraid of sea monsters. It doesnít take much brain power to figure out this one. The sailing boats were pretty quiet going through the water. If there were sea monsters out there, a sailing ship could get close to one. Today, the boats have big diesel engines and steel frames. Sound travels great distances under water; therefore, the critters can hear you coming fifty miles away. They simply learn to avoid the shipping lanes. By the way, huge sections of our oceans have never been sailed. NEVER! The winds and currents are contrary and the seaweed in the Sargasso Sea is too thick. They just avoid those areas and sail around them.
Could there still be dragons, dinosaurs, and sea monsters out there? It makes sense to me. Missionary Hans Egede, from Greenland, tells the story of sighting a sea monster off the coast of Greenland. He said that it stuck its head up level with the top of the ship. It had two little flippers, flappers as he calls them, on the front. A dinosaur with two flippers -- a sea monster? In 1848, Captain Peter MíQuhae of the H.M.S. Deadalus, and his crew, watched a sixty-foot sea monster swim directly under their boat. The sailors on board said, "Captain, please donít say anything about this. Donít write it in the log book for sure because we are going to get laughed at for the rest of our lives. If we go back to port and tell them that we saw a dinosaur, they are going to laugh at us." What would happen to you if you were fishing in the Gulf of Mexico and spotted a dinosaur. When your returned home and said, "Hey! I saw a dinosaur;" they would find you one of those long-sleeved jackets that tie in the back. Right? The very idea of a dinosaur still living is too far out for some folks to believe. However, there are lots of stories of giant critters in the sea.
There are stories of octopus pulling ships under water. There are many stories like that. You say, "Awe, come on Dr. Hovind! Now you have gone overboard. Octopuses never get big enough. They would never pull a ship under water. In the first place, octopuses are shy, elusive creatures." I understand all of that, but you see octopuses never stop growing just like reptiles. Now stop and think about it. If you were an animal that never stopped growing, it might be possible for you to reach the magical size where you would become big enough that you no longer had any enemies. They used to chase you, now you chase them. You say, "Wait a minute! The Guinness Book of World Records states that the largest octopus in the world was 36 feet, which was caught off the coast of Kodiak, Alaska." I have also read Guinness, but they did not perform their research very well this time. There have been bigger octopuses. The one shown in figure 2-10 washed up on the beach in St. Augustine, Florida in 1896. It was 200 feet across and weighed five tons. That is not even the biggest one.
A whale was caught in Seattle, Washington one time and all around the whaleís body were scars. Octopuses have suckers under their arms, and they use them to latch onto their prey. The circular scars on the whaleís body were 18 inches in diameter. They said, "What kind of octopus had a hold of this whale? Awe, it must have got caught when it was a baby, and it got loose; the whale grew, and the scars stretched." Well, maybe so, but when they cut that whaleís stomach open, they found the arm to an octopus. The whale had bitten it off and swallowed it. The arm was 150 feet long. One arm! You see, whales like to eat octopus. Thatís one of their most favorite things to eat. If a whale ever gets sick from eating too much octopus, it will regurgitate. If you ever see a piece of regurgitated octopus floating around the ocean, grab it because, believe it or not, itís worth more than gold pound-for-pound! Do you have any idea as to what they make from puked up octopus? Perfume. That explains a few things; doesnít it fellows? Perfume, ambergris, regurgitated octopus. Sorry, Iím not joking; thatís one of the things they use to make it -- among other things. Giant octopus!!
Not only that, there have been some giant squids found out there. A 57-foot squid washed upon the beach in Canada in 1877. Just a few years ago in the late 1980ís, an 80-foot squid washed upon the beach in Nova Scotia, Canada. Eighty-foot squid?
Dinosaurs have always lived with man, and they are even mentioned in the Bible. You say, "Wait a minute! Dinosaurs in the Bible?" Yep! In the book of Job chapter 38 there is mention of dinosaurs. Let me explain..
The book of Job has forty-two chapters. In the first two chapters, Job lost everything. His camels, sheep, and oxen were stolen. I mean everything went wrong for Job. Did you ever have one of those days where everything goes wrong? Job had one of those weeks. He lost it all. He had ten children, and all ten children died at the same time. His house burned. Everything went wrong. He lost his health. He sat there in the ashes covered with boils from the top of his head to the bottom of his feet. A boil is like the worlds worst zit. Job was covered in them. As he sat there with a broken piece of pottery scraping the puss out of the boils that covered his body, his four friends came to torment him (I mean to comfort him.) Among his friends the shortest man in the Bible was mentioned. There was Bildad the Shuhite (shoe height). Thatís pretty short. Old Bildad, Eliphaz, Zophar, and Elihu came to visit Job. By the way, Bildadís cousin was the next to the shortest man, his name was Nehemiah (Knee-high-my-ya.) Thatís also pretty short. Some people say that Simon Peter must have been pretty short because he slept on his watch. You would have to be short to do that.
These four men, Bildad, Eliphaz, Zophar, and Elihu, came and talked to Job for thirty-five chapters. From chapter 3 all the way through chapter 37 is the story of these four men arguing with Job about why everything went wrong. It was a typical answer, just like Christians give today. If something bad happens to someone else, our first thought is, "Well, he deserves it. He must have done something wrong." If you fall down and break an arm, or break a leg, some dear brother or sister will come and say, "Awe, I see God is punishing you." Oh no! If something bad happens to somebody and you donít know why it happened, you should pray for them, encourage them, love them, and shut your mouth! Let God take care of why it is happening to them. It is none of your business. God handles that kind of stuff. Stay out of it! These four men were just determined that Job had sinned, and they were going to straighten him out. They were going to set the record straight.
While Job was scraping the puss, he said, "God, why is this happening to me? Iíve been trying to serve you. God, why?" Look, you donít have to have a whole lot of life behind you before some tragedy will come to you, and you will say, "God, why?" I am not an expert on tragedy. God has given me a wonderful life, but I have had a little. I have three children here, and three in heaven already. You donít always need to know why. You just need to know who is in charge, thatís all. Who is the boss? You see, the problem Job had was the same problem you and I have. Job was a good, godly, righteous man who was kind of proud of his righteousness. He didnít cuss, drink, or chew; and he didnít go with girls that do. He was a righteous man. He was a nice guy; he went to church; he tithed; he was a deacon; he did it all. He was a good guy, which is all fine, but when you become proud of your righteousness, thatís when you have a problem.
The Lord came in chapter 38 to answer Jobís questions. Job asked, "God, why is this happening?" In Job 38:1 the Bible says, "Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?" In other words, "Job, your four friends do not know what they are talking about." Verse 3 says, "Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?" I read that, and I thought, "God, thatís a dumb question!" Job was sitting in ashes; his children were all dead; and he was scrapping the puss out of his boils, and you come down and say, ĎJob, where were you when I built the earth?í I thought, Job was not there when you built the earth? He knows that, and you know that. Why bother asking the question?" Well, Job did not answer the question; so God asked him another one. Verses 4b and 5a say, "Declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest?" Job does not answer that one either; so, God asked him another one. Verses 5b and 6a ask, "Who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened?" If you read these next four chapters, you will see that God asked Job eighty-four questions. Job never said a word. Job never answered one of the questions, not one. These kinds of questions donít need an answer. They are designed to change your attitude. "Where were you when I built the earth? " Job wasnít there.
Now, this is going to be deep and hard to understand. When God asked Job the question, "Job, where were you when I built the earth," Job was not there. He knew that and God knew that, but asking him the question made Job think, "You know God, that means you are older than I am." Did it ever occur to you that God is older than you are? Did it ever occur to you that God is probably smarter than you are? Has it ever occurred to you that God is probably richer than you are? He probably has more money than you and me. Did it ever occur to you that nothing ever occurred to God? Think on that one for a while. Stuff occurs to me all the time. I say, "Wow, I never thought of that before." God never has that experience. Try to sneak up on him sometime. Say, "Hey God, did you know --- Yes son, I know." He already knows. He knows it all. Nothing ever occurs to God.
Here was Job sitting there wondering why this was happening to him and he said, "God, why did you take away my children? God, why did you take away my camels, my sheep, and my oxen? Everything has gone wrong. God, why?" Then God came down and asked, "Job, where were you when I built the earth?" At first, I didnít get the connection. I thought that was a dumb way to answer Jobís question. The more that I read it, the more I realized that God hit it smack on the head. Job didnít really need to know why; he just needed to know who was in charge, that was all. Like the little child whose mommy says, "Hold my hand while we cross the street." The child says, "Why mommy?" The mother answers, "Just hold my hand." The child says, "Why mommy?" The mother says, "Because your bottom will start hurting if you donít" The child says, "Oh, okay mommy, I understand now. Iíll hold your hand." Just do what God says. If you have tragedy in your life, you donít need to know why, you just need to know who is in charge. Put the Lord first, and everything will be fine. You see, Romans 8:28 says, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." All you really have to worry about in this life is to make sure that your life is right with God. When this is settled, just know that everything that happens works together for your good. Now, the individual things that happen may not be good, like the recipe for a cake. You donít want to eat a cup of flour; it would not be good. You wouldnít want to eat two tablespoons of salt. But when you mix those things together, you can make a lot of things. Things will work together for your good.
God was purposely asking Job questions to try to change Jobís attitude. These are the kinds of questions that donít need an answer. The answers were obvious. Itís the same kind of question you dads ask your children. Children tend to get to a certain age where they get kind of cocky. The child thinks that he ought to make the rules around the house. You dads and moms will understand this. Once in a while a child gets to the age that he thinks he ought to make the rules, and he comes in and says, "Hey dad, you know, Iíve been thinking, I believe that I ought to make the rules around here. I believe that I should be able to stay out until four oíclock in the morning. After all Iím ten now." The dad says, "Hold it just a minute! You want to know why you canít stay out until four in the morning? Now son, let me ask you a few questions first. Who pays the electric bill around here? Who pays the gas bill? Who pays the water bill? Who bought the car? Who pays the insurance on the car? Who fixes the car when it breaks? Who bought the tires on the car? Who bought those clothes that you are wearing? Who bought that bed that you slept in last night? Who pays for the house where you are sleeping? Who pays for that hot water that you used to take a shower about a week ago? Who pays for all of that food you eat? Who pays for your medical expenses? Letís just get it straight right now." The Bible is very plain, "He who payeth the bills, maketh the rules." Well, I am sure it is in there somewhere. The dad continues to say, "Get it straight, son, me dad, you child! If you are going to sleep under my roof, eat off my table, and raid my refrigerator, you are going to do it my way! When you want to do it your way, you go get your own roof to sleep under, your own refrigerator and table, and then you can do it your way. Me dad, you kid. Get in line son!" He says, "Yes sir, dad." Children, if your mom and dad ever go off in one of those tirades, this is what you should do. While they are asking you all those questions, just nod your head. Try to look intelligent and shut your mouth. That is what Job did. God is asking Job these questions, "Job, you want to know why your children died? Job, I am God. That is all you need to know son."
Job never did find out why his children died? God never did tell him until he got to heaven. Hey, would you still serve the Lord if everything went wrong, and you never found out why? Many Christians quit serving God when one little thing goes wrong. "I quit, Iím not serving the Lord anymore." You know what the problem is? The problem is, you have a small god. You do not understand with whom you are dealing. How big is your God? Have you ever thought about that? If your God is big enough to tell you what to do, then you will swiftly and cheerfully say, "Yes sir, Lord. You are the boss!" How big is your God? Hey, is your God big enough to tell you what to wear and what not to wear? Does God have any input into your clothing? Does God have any input into how you cut your hair? Does God care? In I Corinthians 11:14 the Bible says it is a shame for a man to have long hair. That is what God says. God says that women should dress modestly. God said children should obey their parents. How much input does God have in your life anyway? Hey, does God control the knob on the front of the TV set? You say, "God doesnít care what I watch on TV." Yes, he certainly does! Psalm 101:3 says, "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes..." Do you set wicked things before your eyes? How big is your God anyway? Is he really big enough to control the details of your life? He wants to, and itís a wonderful life when you say, "God, I will do what you say."
God was asking Job question after question. God asked in Job 38:16a, "Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea?" Scientists did not even know there were springs in the sea until about thirty years ago. God asked Job that question 3,000 years ago. God is asking him question after question, "Canst thou send lightnings?" "No, I canít send the lightning." Job did not answer any of these questions. Jobís attitude is changing as God goes through this. Then God says in Job 40:15, "Behold now behemoth..." Now, what on earth is a behemoth anyway? You may have a center reference Bible which says that a behemoth is an elephant or a hippopotamus. If you have one of those, take your pen and cross that out. You say, "Cross out something in the Bible?" Not the Bible part, just the center reference part. You see, the Bible is inspired of God, the center references are not. Somebody else put those in there later. Some notes are very good. There are some great reference Bibles out there, but they flat blew it on behemoth. It is not an elephant or a hippopotamus as you will see.
God said, "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox." I believe that behemoth is the brontosaurus. Now I understand that there never was a brontosaurus, if you want to get technical. There is the apatosaurus, the brachiosaurus, the cetiosaurus, and the polacanthus. Iím familiar with most of them. What happened was, when they were putting the first one together at the museum, they got the whole body together of a diplodocus except for a head. They said, "We canít put this thing in a museum with no head." One guy said, "I know where there is a head." It was four and a half miles away from the bones, but he said, "That will fit." Therefore, they got a head from an apatosaurus, put it on the skeleton, and dubbed it "brontosaurus." Later, they found out that they had mixed two animals together, but it was too late. Everybody still calls it brontosaurus, but actually there was no such critter. So, Fred Flintstone drives an apatosaurus not a brontosaurus. An apatoburger doesnít seem to ring a bell like a brontoburger. I will just leave it alone, and for the sake of discussion I will call it a brontosaurus even though I understand there wasnít one.
I believe behemoth was a brontosaurus. Now, wait a minute! God said, "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee.." Was behemoth a dinosaur, and was he with Job? People say, "Oh no! dinosaurs lived 70 million years ago." Wait just a minute! Would God say, "Behold now behemoth," if Job could not behold now behemoth? That would be dumb, right? God says, "Job look at behemoth." Job looks around and says, "Where? Whatís a behemoth?" God says, "Ugh! (snaped his fingers) I am sorry Job, they have been dead for 70 million years. What am I thinking? Never mind Job. Donít behold one, just think about one." Thatís not what God told him. He told him to behold one. Therefore, whatever it is, God told him to behold it. Then He said, "...eateth grass as an ox." People say, "Wait a minute, Dr. Hovind, elephants eat grass." Yes, I know, lots of it, five-hundred pounds a day. Hippopotamuses also eat grass. I agree; I know brontosauruses eat grass too because their plant eaters. The description could fit either one of those animals. Verse 16 says, "Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly." That means the biggest, strongest part on him is his belly. People say, "Just a minute! Elephants have a big belly." I agree, a big one. A hippopotamus is kind of big in the belly, and so is a brontosaurus. As a matter of fact, if a big belly was all that you had to worry about, there would be a lot of people that would qualify. Verse 17 says, "He moveth his tail like a cedar..." Now, wait a second! His tail is like a cedar tree? Have you ever seen an elephantís tail? Would it remind you of a cedar tree? How about a hippopotamus? No. How about a brontosaurus tail? Yes! Verse 18, "His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron." This fellow has big heavy-duty bones, and they do. The picture shown with my knuckle and a tape measure in figure 2-12 is the toe bone of a brachiosaurus. If you feel your fingers, you will find that you have different bones in there called flanges. The second flange on a brachiosaurus is shown in the photograph.
Now, this is going to be complicated. The reason they had such big toe bones is because they had big toes. The reason they had those big toes is because they had big feet. Pictured in figure 2-13 is a little boy taking a bath in a brachiosaurusí footprint. BIG FEET! Now the reason they had those big feet is because they had big legs. The picture shown in figure 2-14 is a picture of a man standing next to the front leg of a brachiosaurus. Just the front leg is twenty feet tall. Their head was fifty feet off the ground. That is as tall as a five-story building. If his head was just a little taller, it would be as tall as a six-story building, but thatís another story. His bones are like bars of iron. He has big bones. Now the reason they had those big legs is because they got had a big body
The biggest one found is still half in the ground in Alberta, Canada. Theyíre digging it out of the ground, which is going to take years. From the bones found so far, the experts feel they are from a brachiosaurus. They estimate that from the tip of his nose to the tip of his tail is 150 feet long. This would be a new world's record for the longest dinosaur. China had the record. In 1986, they found a 140 foot long dinosaur. This one is going to break it by ten feet. They estimate that it probably weighed about 100 tons. Now big numbers like that donít fit into human brains. Congress knows that and takes advantage of it. One-hundred tons are a lot. A school bus only weighs six to seven tons, so a brachiosaurus like that probably weighed as much as fourteen school buses stacked on top of each other. That means, if he were to come by and step on you accidentally, or on purpose, it wouldnít matter, you would be deeply impressed by him. You would be road pizza when he was done. His bones are like bars of iron; he has big bones.
Verse 19 says, "He is the chief of the ways of God." Heís the chief of the ways of God? The Hebrew word, resith, means that he is the principle; heís the first; heís the biggest; heís the resith -- the biggest. Heís the chief of the ways of God. Oh! Now wait a minute! That makes perfect sense. You see, the way the devil works is whenever God makes something the devil tries to steal the glory from God. I won't go off on a rabbit trail right now, but Iím pretty convinced that God put the Gospel in the stars, as in the Zodiac. Satan has twisted it and perverted it into the horoscopes of today, which has nothing to do with what God intended it to be. You know, as in Virgo the virgin, bringing forth the child, and all of that kind of stuff, the Gospel in the stars.
God has invented a lot of beautiful things and Satan has tried to twist and pervert them for his glory, including the dinosaurs. For instance, God invented music. God loves music. Music is wonderful, but Satan has twisted it and perverted it into ungodly forms of music. Someone asked me years ago, "Dr. Hovind, do you know what you get when you play country music backwards?" I said, "No, I donít believe I do." He said, "You get your hound dog, your pickup, and your wife, all back." There are some ungodly perversions of music out there. God invented marriage, the family, and sex. God made them male and female. He thoroughly understands it. You see, Godís plan is very simple. One man and one woman get married and stay faithful for one lifetime. No premarital sex. No adultery. No fornication. No homosexuality. Thatís Godís plan. Itís wonderful, and it works great. Satan has tried to twist it, ruin it, and destroy it for folks every since God made the family.
God invented the dinosaurs, and Satan said, "Ah ha! If he is the chief, I have to figure out a way to steal the glory from God using the dinosaurs." So what happened after the flood is that, dinosaurs were being killed off and becoming more and more rare. Five-hundred years ago they were real rare. People forgot them. Some were in existence in remote places of the world, but basically they were forgotten. Then two-hundred years ago, they begin finding the bones of the animals that had drowned in the flood and began to put them together.
The first dinosaur that was assembled was in 1841. They made many goofs. It was an iguanodon. What they thought was a horn on its nose later turned out to be its thumb. As they put these bones together, the devil must have been there, and as Richard Owens coined the term "dinosaur" to mean terrible lizard, the devil said, "You know! These animals have always lived with man. They are basically gone and people have forgotten them. Iím going to tell folks that these animals lived millions of years ago. Number one, they will never know the difference whether itís a few hundred years or a few million years. The fact is they are gone, and people wonít know the difference. Number two, it will serve a valuable purpose. If they believe that they lived millions of years ago, it will make them doubt the word of God, which is the whole purpose." Now, he has very successfully stolen the glory from God.
Boys and girls go through kindergarten at your and my expense, and they learn, "Boys and girls, this is a dinosaur." What is the very next sentence that they learn? Something about millions of years ago, and Satan has gotten the victory all the way. Children start in kindergarten when they are three years old learning that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, and they are brainwashed by the time they get out of high school. They are convinced that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. The very thought that maybe they did not is foreign to their brain. You canít get it out of their mind. They did not live millions of years ago. He is the chief of the ways of God, and Satan has done a successful propagation campaign to steal the glory from the Lord.
Look at the rest of verse 19, "...he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." Verses 20 and 21 say, "Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens." Now the word fens means the swamp or the mire. Behemoth lived under the trees in the swamp. Thatís what the Bible says.
Dinosaurs May Still Be Alive!
Well now, thatís interesting. Did you know that there are some very large swamps in the world right now? The biggest swamp in the world is called the Likouala Swamp. Itís in the Congo of Africa. That is 55,000 square miles of swamp land. Thatís a big swamp! Fifty-five thousand square miles is bigger than the entire state of Alabama, which is only 50,000 square miles. Could you imagine a swamp bigger than Alabama? That swamp is bigger than the state of Arkansas, which is 53,000 square miles. You have heard of Arkansas where our president, and her husband Bill, comes from? Can you imagine a swamp that is bigger than the whole state of Arkansas? Do you know there have been many expeditions into that swamp? There have been over twenty scientific expeditions in the last fifteen years looking for dinosaurs still living today in the Likouala Swamp. You say, "Dr. Hovind, wait a minute! Dinosaurs? You mean brachiosaurses, brontosauruses, and apatosauruses are still living today in a swamp?" Yep! "Is it possible that there could still be a few dinosaurs living today, alive, right now?" Yep! Dinosaurs still alive? Now, I donít want you to think that there are millions of them all over the world, and that you need to be careful when you go out. Itís not that way at all. There is probably none in your town, but there are some in a few spots in the world still alive right now.
The dinosaur pictured in figure 2-15 is a blondosaurus. Just be sure to talk to her kind of slow. I want to give you a few examples of dinosaurs that are possibly still around in the world today. In 1880, Belgium took over the Congo in Africa, which included this big swamp, known as the Belgium Congo. For many years Belgium colonized that territory. From 1880 on, they sent explorers to the Congo, and some of these explorers returned and some did not. Those that went into the swamp came back out and said, "Boss, there are big critters in that swamp." They were known by several different names among the local natives. The most common name being Mokele-Mbembe (Moke-e-lay-mem-bee.) Dinosaurs in the swamp?
In 1948, the Saturday Evening Post published a huge article about Dinosaurs Still Living In The Congo Swamp. All along, there have been stories of dinosaur sightings in that Africa swamp. So finally, in 1980, Dr. Roy Mackal, a very famous micro biologist at the University of Chicago and a strong believer in evolution, decided that he was going to go and check it out. Dr. Mackal spent a fortune to go to the Congo swamp. He traveled around among the natives and asked them questions about the various animals that live in the swamp. He said the first thing that he noticed in the swamp was the mosquitoes. He calculated that the mosquitoes landed on them at the rate of about a 1,000 per hour the whole time that they were there. It was a relentless attack of blood-thirsty mosquitoes.
In spite of all the difficulties, they stayed there for six weeks. They talked to natives that went hunting in the swamp. The natives lived mostly along the main rivers, and they would go back into the swamp very reluctantly. When they did go, they wouldnít stay very long, maybe just a few hours, to try to find something and then they would quickly get out of the swamp.
Dr. Mackal said as they traveled around, they showed the natives pictures of different animals. He showed them crocodile pictures and the natives said, "Oh yeah! Weíve got those animals here." Dr. Mackal said, "How big?" The natives paced it off on the sandbar to be fifty feet long. Dr. Mackal said, "Thatís a pretty big crocodile. Are you sure they get that big?" I believe it was on the 1984 expedition that they actually saw a fifty-foot crocodile in that swamp. See, crocodiles never stop growing either. Once you pass that magical point where you no longer have any enemies, itís all downhill.
As Dr. Mackal continued to show the natives the pictures, he had a picture book of many different animals, some that lived in the swamp and some that didnít. He was going to test the natives to see if they were telling the truth. As they would thumb through the pages, they would say, "Oh yes, hippopotamus. Yeah, weíve got that one." Turn the page. "Yep! Crocodiles, we have those. Grizzly bear. No, we have never seen that animal." Dr. Mackal turned the page and came to the picture of an apatosaurus, and the natives said, "Oh yes, thatís Mokele-Mbembe, he lives out in the swamp. Whatís next?" You know turn the page. "What else do you want to know?" It was no big deal to them. Dr. Mackal said, "Mokele-Mbembe? You mean to tell me that you have an apatosaurus living in the swamp? Donít you know, thatís a dinosaur? Theyíve been dead for seventy million years." The natives said, "Weíre sorry, we didnít know that. Weíve never been to the University of Chicago to study evolution. All that we know is that we see one once in a while as we fish out there." Apatosauruses still alive? Now, donít become excited. They are not one-hundred fifty feet long like they used to be. The natives claim that Mokele-Mbembe is only about twenty-five or thirty feet long. They say his body is about the size of a hippopotamus, but his neck and tail are real long. Which fits the pattern, by the way.
There have been some big critters spotted in this world that you will never hear about. There were some expeditions in a swamp where Brazil meets Venezuela. Colonel Fawcett, I believe was the gentlemanís name, shot and killed a giant snake as it went across the river in front of them. They measured the snake, and it was seventy-six feet long. The natives said, "Colonel, you should see the big ones." They said that they get much bigger than this, as much as one-hundred thirty feet. You see; lizards and reptiles never stop growing.
People donít live to be nine-hundred years old anymore as they used to before the flood. Dragonflies donít get to be three feet like they used to before the flood. Grasshoppers donít get to be two feet long like they used to before the flood, and dinosaurs donít get one-hundred-fifty feet long like they used to before the flood. The bones that we are finding today are the fossils of animals that were drowned in the flood. Nearly all of the fossils were formed 4,400 years ago. Somebody says, "How old is that dinosaur bone?" Four-thousand four-hundred years old. Thatís how old all of the fossils are, with maybe a few rare exceptions. Things donít fossilize unless they are quickly buried. The flood formed all of the fossils. The reason there are layers to them is due to hydrologic sorting. Animals with similar density are buried together. Birds are frequently found on top not because birds evolved last, but because birds were the last ones to drown in the flood. Birds have hollow bones and feathers, and when they do drown they float. Therefore, it doesnít prove an evolutionary sequence, it proves a flood. It all depends on how you want to look at the evidence.
The natives claimed that Mokele-Mbembe lived in the water and was very rarely seen. The natives that had lived there a lifetime may only have seen him once or twice or they may never have seen him, but they did claim to hear him from time-to-time. They claimed that he lived under the water and under the shade of the trees. Ah! Kind of like in the book of Job, "...He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens." That is exactly what God told Job. They said that behemoth, this animal Mokele-Mbembe, would stick his long neck out and eat plants along the side of the rivers. They said that he was active at night, which means he was not often seen in the daytime. His favorite plant was the Molombo plant. They told Roy Mackal, "If you want to find a Mokele-Mbembe, travel around the swamp until you find a place where there are lots of Molombo growing and where there are no hippopotamuses, because Mokele-Mbembe doesnít like hippopotamus. Matter of fact, Mokele-Mbembe doesnít like much of anything." They went on to say that if you were to come up behind him in a canoe, he would come up out of the water and smash your canoe with his tail and drown everybody in the canoe. They said he would not eat you, if that is any consolation; he would only kill you. They reported that he is not friendly at all. His very sensitive hearing enables him to duck under the water when he hears you coming, which makes your chances of spotting him close to zero.
Dr. Mackal went back the next year and spent one-quarter of a million dollars on a nine-week expedition and did not see the animal either time. He did gather all sorts of reports from the natives from villages all up and down the swamp. These were people that had no idea that Dr. Mackal was coming, and had no idea of what he wanted. They were just simply telling him about the animals in the swamp. They found footprints of Mokele-Mbembe. The animal comes out of the water onto land, smashing plants, looking for the Molombo plant to eat. The footprints were about the size of a hippopotamus, but with five claws on them. The hippopotamus doesnít have claws and neither does the elephant.
The natives claimed that one of their ancestors had killed one of these animals. Dr. Mackal asked the natives, "Does Mokele-Mbembe ever die? Do you ever see a dead one?" They said, "Oh, Mokele-Mbembe is the god of the river. He never dies." Of course, that is an exaggeration. He said, "Do you ever kill one to eat it?" They said, "Oh no! Our grandfathers killed and ate one, and they all died."
I have a missionary friend that has been in the Congo swamp for over forty years. His name is Eugene Thomas. I talked to Eugene when he was on furlough a couple of years ago. I said, "Eugene, do you have dinosaurs in the swamp?" He said, "Mr. Hovind, I have lived there for forty years and have traveled extensively in that swamp. I generally stay in the village with the natives." He went on to say, "I have never seen one, but there is no doubt in my mind that there are some dinosaurs in that swamp. I have two pigmies in my church that helped kill one back in the 1950ís." I ask him if that was the same story that Roy Mackal writes about in his book, A Living Dinosaur? In Search of Mokele-Mbembe. He said, "Yes, those two pigmies were interviewed by Dr. Mackal when he was over here. They are Christians now. I myself have heard the dinosaurs at night." He said that you can hear them at night, roaring like giant lizards. That is the testimony from a missionary that has lived there for forty years. You can call him up and talk to him yourself; his address and phone number are in the back of this book.
In 1983, an expedition lead by Marcellin Agnagna, left the Brazzaville Congo, the capital of Congo, for the Congo swamp. Marcellin and his group of scientists, traveled into the swamp. He also went with Dr. Mackal on his second expedition. Marcellin said, "Man, I didnít know there were dinosaurs in my own backyard! Dinosaurs just 500 miles from my house. Nobody goes into that swamp!" Eugene Thomas, the missionary, told me, "That swamp is uninhabited, and uninhabitable. You couldnít live there, and you wouldnít want to if you could. Itís a miserable place." Marcellin, along with several of his scientists, went in there and saw one of the animals. He grabbed his camera and snapped off several pictures before he realized that he had forgotten to take off the lens cap. When you go deer hunting, they call it buck fever. I donít know what they call it when you go Mokele-Mbembe hunting. He said. "I didnít get a picture, but Iíll draw you a sketch."
Dr. Mackal traveled all over the swamp, and the story was the same, "Oh yes, Mokele-Mbembe lives up the stream." They claim that Mokele-Mbembes migrate around eating plants as they travel on to the next place; so, they are never in the same location for an extended period.
It is not just in Africa where these stories are told. There are reports of dinosaurs still living all over the world. Not millions of them, but reports in several locations. For example, have you ever heard of the Loch Ness Monster? The word loch means lake in Gaelic, the Celtic language of the Scottish Highlands and Ireland. Loch Ness is about twenty-four to twenty-five miles long, and about one mile wide. It is a long skinny lake in the mountains of Scotland, and because it is in the mountains, it is a very deep lake. Itís in between two mountain ranges and is up to 1,000 feet deep in some places. The lake is big enough and deep enough that everybody in the world could drown in Loch Ness. Five billion people could drown in Loch Ness, and no one would show above the surface. It is a big lake.
In 1933, they cut a groove along the side of the mountain to put in a road. Because it was so steep, there was no place to put a road, so they actually chiseled a groove with dynamite into the hillside and put in a roadway. The year 1933 is a very important date. Since they put the roadway in, people could drive alongside the lake and look at the lake. Before the roadway was put in, if you wanted to see Lock Ness, you had to travel up the river seven miles, and then go into Loch Ness, and then twenty-five miles by boat. Therefore, only the local people talked about the Loch Ness Monster until 1933. Outsiders then began to see it because of the highway. In 1933, driving down that brand new highway, people began to spot the Loch Ness Monster. As of the 1960ís, there were over 9,000 sightings of the Loch Ness Monster. Today, there have been over 11,000 such sightings.
Now look! If 11,000 people claim that they have seen something, I would say that there is something to what they are seeing. Some of them are probably hoaxes, frauds, or wrongly identified. No question, they may have seen an otter, a duck, a log floating, or swamp gas. I know; I have heard all of those stories, but since 11,000 people claim that they have seen it, there must be something there. It is not just all wild-eyed radical people either. There have been some very reputable people that have claimed to have seen this critter. For instance, Sir Peter Scott, a British naturalist and a member of Parliament (this is the equivalent of a US Senator, which of course, does not give him any credibility) says that he has seen the Loch Ness Monster on several occasions. He thinks the Loch Ness Monster is a plesiosaurus. A plesiosaurus? A plesiosaurus is a long-necked swimming dinosaur. There are several different kinds of plesiosaurus, including the allosaurus, and the kronosaurus. They have different shaped heads and neck lengths, etc.
Although 11,000 people have claimed to have seen this critter. some are obviously hoaxes and frauds. The Weekly World News reported, "The Loch Ness Monster Has A Baby." After that came out, I called Scotland to talk to the lady in charge of the Loch Ness Phenomenon Investigation Bureau. I asked, "Is it true that you caught the Loch Ness Monster?" She said, "No, I donít know how your American papers get by with publishing that kind of stuff." I said, "Lady, you would not believe some of the stuff the papers publish." You know, "Adam and Eveís Skeletons Found in Denver, Colorado." Anyway, they did not catch it, but it has been seen by many folks.
Aurthor Grant, a veterinarian student was riding his motorcycle down the road at two oíclock in the morning, coming home from studying, when he nearly ran into the Lock Ness Monster with his motorcycle. He said that it was scooting across the road in front of his motorcycle. Scooting across the road? Loch Ness Monster has been seen seventeen times out of the water, twice with a sheep in his mouth headed back for the water. Aurthor Grant, being a veterinarian student, ought to have known something about animals. He said that it scooted across the road like an animal on flippers; it moved like a seal with a jerky motion. He drew the sketch shown in figure 2-20. He said, "It was fifteen to twenty feet long, and looked like a plesiosaurus, but I know that it couldnít be a plesiosaurus because they have been dead for 70 million years." Thatís about what Roy Mackal said in his book. He says, "There is no question there are still a few dinosaurs left. It is amazing that they have survived for 70 million years." He is very convinced of his 70 million years ago theory.
Alexander Campbell is the water bailiff, thatís the equivalent of a conservation officer or game warden. His job is watching Loch Ness. He has been at it for forty-seven years. In that time he says that he has seen the Loch Ness Monster eighteen times. He ought to know something about it since he has seen it eighteen times. He says the creature is about thirty feet long and his head sticks about six feet out of the water. He thinks it is a plesiosaurus. It is strange that they are all coming up with the same idea, isnít it?
The Spicer family watched it cross the road in front of their car with a sheep in its mouth. Cages were build in the 1930ís in order to catch it. P. T. Barnham offered $50,000 for the critter, dead or alive, to display in his museum. That was a lot of money back in the 1930ís.
Mrs. Moir saw it for an hour, along with her sister and mother-in-law. She said that it was about thirty feet long. There are many pictures and stories, and I collect them. I donít have all 11,000, but I have numerous stories of people who have seen the Loch Ness Monster. Why would people tell these stories? Are they looking to be made fun of? All that you will get is ridicule. Why would a person report seeing it? Whatís the motive? Money? People are going to laugh at them.
Torquil Macleod lived in Scotland. He watched the creature through binoculars from across the lake. Half of the creature was on shore with his neck moving back and forth like a snake that is about to strike. He watched it for nine minutes. It put one of its flippers upon shore, pushed off, and flopped into the water. After watching it for nine minutes, he drew the sketch shown in figure 2-22. Is it just a coincidence that they all come up with the same idea?
A camper took a picture (figure 2-23) in 1960, of the back and the neck sticking up. She flashed the picture, and then he ducked under the water. Greta Finlay drew the sketch shown in figure 2-24. Over and over people are coming up with the same basic idea.
In the Readerís Digest book, Mysteries of the Unexplained, an underwater picture was shown of the flipper of the animal. It was estimated that the flipper was six feet long. They captured the photograph by placing a sonar device, cameras, and strobe lights underwater so that if anything swam in front of the camera, it would be triggered to take pictures. The water is very dirty, and visibility is zero. It is about like taking a picture in a mud puddle; the light doesnít travel very far. Loch Ness is like a giant mud puddle 900 to 1,000 feet deep. That six-foot flipper (figure 2-25) was attached to something pretty big. Here is a picture (figure 2-26) with its mouth open. There are now nearly 100 photographs of this creature, some are poor quality; some are not too bad.
People say, "If the creature is really over there, why donít they get a good picture of it?" That is a fair question. Let me turn it around and ask a question. Have you ever seen a picture of a car wreck as it happened? You wonít either, at least not very often. There have been thousands of wrecks. It happens so fast that you say, "Oh wow! Theyíre going to crash!" CRASH! "Hereís my camera. I should have gotten a picture of that!" You think of it after it happened. If you are out swimming or fishing, and all of a sudden you see a dinosaur, you say, "Oh wow! He is gone. "I should have taken a picture." You donít think of it when it happens. I donít fault folks for not getting a good photograph. Do you have a camera with you right this second. If one crashed through your wall, and then exited the scene, you would be called a liar for the rest of your life. Right?
Three attempts have been made with submarines to record evidence and they have been unsuccessful. The water is so dirty that they could not even see the front of their own vessels so this proved to be futile. They tried yellow subs, red subs, and white subs thinking that Nessie might be attracted to a particular color. Hey, what if it would have been attracted? How would you like to be in a mini-sub with a thirty-foot long dinosaur attracted to you? Not smart. There have been lots of pictures; some may be frauds; I am not going to justify all of them. However, there have been many reputable people who have claimed to have seen this critter called the Lock Ness Monster.
It is not just Lock Ness, but many other lakes in Scotland and in Ireland are reporting these creatures. There are apparently a family of plesiosaurs still living over there which, as a Bible believing Christian, makes perfect sense. There probably are some dinosaurs still alive in the world. Even in the English channels, in the North Sea, and in Sweden, there have been sightings by hundreds of witnesses. In the 1800ís, the Swedes built big traps and harpoons to try to catch one and get the critters out of the lake. In 1905, off the coast of Brazil, a dinosaur swam past a boat load of scientists. One scientist said, "Hey fellows, what is he doing out here? Thatís a dinosaur! Heís been dead for 70 million years." They forgot to tell that one. What do you do with that?
A Japanese fishing boat caught one in 1977. They caught a dinosaur? Figure 2-27 is a picture of a rotting plesiosaurus carcass. As they were dragging their net 900 feet down off the coast of New Zealand, the Japanese fishing fleet snagged a 4,000 pound, 32-foot long carcass of a rotting dinosaur. The fishermen on board said, "Man, we have never seen anything that looks like this." They took tissue samples, weighed it, and measured it, and said, "Boss, this thing stinks! Itís rotten! If you think that we are going to haul 4,000 pounds of rotten meat from New Zealand to Japan going 20 mph, youíre mistaken," so they threw it back. It made big news all over the world except in America. We didnít hear anything about it, but it happened in 1977. The Japanese even made a commemorative mail stamp (figure 2-28) out of it.
A dinosaur? It fits the Bible account just fine. The Russian words at the top of figure 2-29 say, "Riddle or Mystery Lake." You can read more about this in the Readerís Digest, Mysteries of the Unexplained. A group of scientists went to the Soviet Union and actually saw the creature in the middle of the lake. They drew a sketch of what they saw. Dinosaurs in Siberia? I could believe it, and itís not because that I am some kind of nut. Itís because I believe the Bible, and it just makes sense. The world is not millions of years old.
I interviewed a Canadian fisherman (figure 2-30) for an hour. He said that a dinosaur of sorts chased their boat off the coast of Nova Scotia for two miles. He said, "Look, Iíve been fishing out here for years. I donít know what it was. It was something with a huge jaw about eight or nine feet long." The jaw eight or nine feet long! I have the interview on audio tape.
There have been many sightings of these creatures on Lake Okanagan in Canada. Statues have been built in their parks for the children to play on them. They call him Ogopogo. Over 1,000 people claim to have seen Ogopogo in Canada. There must be something to it. What do you do? You can either deny them and say they are all liars, and you can say that it is a tourist trap to get more tourists to Lake Okanagan in Canada. Some of the sightings may be for that purpose. I am not attempting to justify all of them. However, when thousands upon thousands report sightings (20,000 reported sightings of dinosaurs in this century) there are just too many to discount.
In Cadboro Bay, British Columbia, a creature has been sighted called Caddy. Three to four hundred sightings of the creature have been reported in the Potomac in Washington, D.C. and in Lake Erie. The article, Erieís Besse matches Nessie (figure 2-31) tells the story of one such sighting. A dinosaur in Lake Erie? John Craft took a picture of it (figure 2-32.) He saw the critter, along with his wife and mother-in-law and someone else that was with him, and photographed it. When I talked to him, he said, "Brother Hovind, I donít know what the critter was. It looked like a dinosaur. Just when I was going to take a picture of the sunset, my wife said, ĎWhatís that!í She said that it looked like a whole row of men swimming. I swung the camera over, but by then it had put its head back down and was swimming with just his back out of the water. Thatís when I snapped the photograph."
The article shown in figure 2-33, Californiaís Nessie, appeared in the November 1989 issue of the Skin Diver magazine. In 1925 just south of San Francisco, in Monterey, California, something washed up on the beach . As it lay there on the beach and rotted away, no one thought to save any of it, at least no one that I could find. They said that it was forty feet long, and the neck was twenty feet long. A twenty-foot long neck? Many people came to examine it like Mr. Wallace, a Santa Cruz resident, who was president of the Natural History Society of British Columbia. He said, "My examination of the monster was quite thorough. It had no teeth. Its head was large, and its neck was fully twenty feet long. I would call it a type of plesiosaurus." Plesiosaurus, in California in 1925? I could buy that, no problem. There might even be a few zeuglodons left. A zeuglodon or basilasaurus is a long skinny dinosaur that looks like an alligator but with only two front feet and no back feet. It has a long tail and two front flippers.
There are over 300 people that claim that they have seen the White River Monster in New Port, Arkansas. The picture shown in figure 2-35 is of the White River Monster; a creature that is said to be thirty feet long. I have interviewed several people that say they have seen the creature. One such interview was with Gary Addington and Lloyd Hamilton about their sightings. Today, they live in Jacksonport, Arkansas. I called Cloyce Warren, the man who took the photograph, and he said, "Mr. Hovind, we took some good pictures of that animal because everybody was laughing at us. We fished the river all the time, and we told people that there was a thirty-foot long animal in the river." People would say to them, "Yeah, right! Sure there is! What have you been drinking out there?" He went on to say, "We got several good pictures of it one time. We left the film in the camera, and took it down to the newspaper office, the Newport Daily Independent. We told them that the film was still in the camera and had not been opened yet. I didnít want to be accused of doctoring the film. I told them to develop the film and print the pictures in the paper." I donít know who did it, but someone at the newspaper office didnít realize that it was color film, and developed it with black and white developer, and ruined the whole role. They said, "Cloyce, guess what? We messed up." He said, "Iíll try to get another picture, but itís a rare opportunity to get a picture." Thirty-foot dinosaurs in Arkansas? It hasnít been seen since 1972 when a flood came and an enormous amount of mud washed into the river. The river used to be 100 feet deep; today, it is only 50 feet deep.
In between the state of Vermont and New York, there is a huge lake, Lake Champlain, named after Samuel Champlain, the French explorer that discovered it. The Indians told Samuel Champlain, "Donít go out on the lake. The water horse will get you." He said, "The water horse?" They said, "Oh, there is a big animal that lives in the lake." The Indians were afraid of it. Lake Champlain is 120 miles long, 15 miles wide, and 500 feet deep. Iíve been skiing on it; it is a big lake. All along Lake Champlain there have been hundreds and hundreds of sightings of a creature called Champ. You can read more about this in the book, Champ, by Joseph W. Zarzynsky (figure 2-38). I talked to Joseph. He says that he has been collecting sighting information on Champ for seventeen years. He said to me, "Mr. Hovind, there is no question in my mind that there are still a few dinosaurs left, and weíve got some in Lake Champlain just like the Loch Ness Monster." He then said, "Secondly, itís pretty surprising that they have survived for 70 million years, isnít it?" No, Joseph, they did not; well, we wonít get into all of that. The world is not 70 million years old.
I interviewed, Sandy Mansi from New Hampshire, who took the picture that is on the front of Joseph Zarzynskyís book, Champ. When I was preaching in New Hampshire at another time, she came and heard me speak. She said, "Mr. Hovind, youíre the first person that I have ever heard talk about dinosaurs who tries to use them for the glory of God." I said, "Sandy, could I see your picture?" She said, "Oh yes." She showed me the photograph that she took of Champ. It was clear as a bell. I said tell me about it please. She said, "My husband and I were standing at the edge of Lake Champlain on the Vermont side, and our two children were playing in the water. All of a sudden, we noticed this turbulence in the water, and then it slowly came up. It was looking around from right to left. It looked kind of nervous. We watched it for ten minutes. My husband handed me the camera. I dropped to my knees because my legs just buckled out from under me, but I snapped off one picture. We were looking at a dinosaur." I looked at the picture through a magnifying glass, and I said, " Sandy, what would you charge me for a copy of this picture." She said, "Oh, you couldnít afford it. People have paid me up to $10,000 for permission to use it. It appeared in Time magazine in 1981. I have never heard anyone talk about dinosaurs who wants to use them for the glory of the Lord. Iím a Christian, and I would like to give you one of my pictures for your display."
Hundreds of people have seen it. Lee Smith videotaped it for nearly a minute. I went to Lee Smithís house, south of Ticonderoga, New York. He was the county road superintendent or worked on a bulldozer or something like that. He was in a lighthouse when he videotaped it for nearly a minute. I said , "Lee, could I please see the video?" He said, "Oh sure." He showed it to me. I said, "Lee, what would you charge me to make a copy of this tape? I would like to use it." He said, "Oh, you can have one." His little boy was with him and said, "Itís a shark! There is white things coming out of his mouth." Evidently the animal was breathing out, and it was making steam-like vapor much like a whale. I have included this video at the end of my seminar tape number two.
Many people have seen these critters, and they are not all lunatics. There must be something to it. The whole problem is how you look from the beginning. What is your preconception?
There might even be a few pterodactyls left. There is the story of a giant bird that came down and snatched away the Indians north of Alton, Illinois ó the piasa bird. It was probably a giant pterodactyl that snatched an Indian baby and the legend grew out of proportion. In 1882, two cowboys shot and killed a pterodactyl in Arizona. They said, "Folks are not going to believe us. A thirteen-foot bird in the desert of Arizona?" They cut the wing tips off and took them back to the local bar and said, "Fellows, weíve just shot a thirteen-foot bird. Here is part of his wing." There were no feathers, just skin. Leathery wings?
There are several swamps in Africa that are still reporting creatures like pterodactyls. If you draw a picture of a pterodactyl and show it to the natives, they will say, "Oh yes, thatís Kongamato. He lives out there." Kongamato? "Yes, he has a five- to seven-foot wing span." They are not as big as they used to be. The fifty footers couldnít fly in todayís atmosphere. The air is too thin, but a five- to seven-footer would have no problem. Iím not saying that there are millions, but there are a few isolated spots where there are some still left. Pterodactyls still alive!
The purpose of all of this is not to have you say, "Oh! Wow! Neat! Dinosaurs may still be alive!" I have several motives. Number one, I want to strengthen your faith in the Word of God. Christians have taken a beating over the dinosaur issue for the last 100 years because they havenít known what to do with the evolutionist theories. Dinosaurs are mentioned right in the Bible, and some may still be around. What I want to see happen is the same thing that happened to Job. After God finished talking to Job, He asked him eighty-four questions, and showed him two dinosaurs, Behemoth in chapter 40, and Leviathan in chapter 41. Then in chapter 42, Job answered the Lord.
Look what happened to Job. Job was a good, righteous man, and it made him kind of proud. "Iím a good guy. I donít drink, smoke, cuss, or chew, and I donít go with girls that do." God was done with him now, and he left. Chapter 42, verse 1 through 6 says, "Then Job answered the LORD, and said, I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? Therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not. Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes." Repent? Of what did Job have to repent? Job didnít commit adultery. Job hadnít stolen anything. He hadnít lied, but he still had to repent. You see; Job got a good glimpse at who God is, and it made him realize how small he was. I think that if we had a glimpse of a dinosaur, it would make us realize that we are not such hot stuff after all. I think that God used the dinosaurs to get to Jobís heart. "Say Job, you need to humble yourself, son. You need to serve me." We need some Christians that will humble themselves and say, "God, if you are big enough to make the dinosaurs, and you are big enough to make this world, then you are big enough to run my life. What do you want me to do, Father?"
Look, there is a war going on. It is time we get more volunteers. Maybe God doesnít want you to be a preacher. Maybe God doesnít want you to be an evangelist. He might want you to teach a Sunday School class, drive a bus, or just fill up your car with children and bring them to church every week. I donít know what God has for you. Maybe you ought to start a ministry. Maybe you ought to get a puppet house, make some dinosaur puppets and travel around to churches all over your area and do seminars on dinosaurs. "Hi boys and girls. Iím a dinosaur. I did not live millions of years ago. Donít let them tell you that in school boys and girls." Just give the Children the truth! God ought to get the glory for the dinosaurs, not the devil! Maybe you could start a business where you make dinosaur cakes and put on birthday parties for children. Ask God what he wants you to do. Charge $50 to have twenty children come over and do a dinosaur party and teach them the truth. Children love dinosaurs. The devil is using it as hard as he can. It is important to get thousands of Christians involved in it. Look, we are missing the opportunity. Iím afraid that when we get to heaven, we are going to look back on our life and say, "Awe man, look what I could have done." The saddest words, "It could have been." What could you have done with your life? If you added up all of the money that you have wasted in your life, how much would it be? If you had all the time back that you have wasted in your life, how much would it be? Okay, you canít get it back, but you can stop wasting it starting now.
I hope that you get uncomfortable in not doing anything for the Lord. There is a war going on. If you are not going to shoot, you should at least carry bullets, take care of the wounded, or do something.